Today e-commerce is a very important market but it will be even more so if there are no scams.
guarantees that must be brought above all by large operators and certifying authorities. because it is they, the companies that are making a huge financial success, that must protect themselves from thieves, because otherwise we will no longer trust this form of purchase and so the market will collapse.
The police and the courts can punish the offenders, but they will never change their habit, so let’s unite and fight them .. how?
Ruining their online reputation: I start by telling you about my recent misadventure: I wanted to buy a computer and on Alibaba I found what it did for me at a great price.
After verifying that the seller had the Gold Supplier certification issued by Alibaba I placed the order.
Ultimately the computer did not arrive, I spent more than 1000 $ and the seller, who promised to give me back my money, has not yet. I know you may think that I was naive, but I never thought that large organizations would not have protected themselves against these thieves who have been stealing undisturbed for several years now.
Below I transcribe the whole negotiationPS: but do you think Berg Clinton is his real name?

29/03/21, 19:31 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Hello Fabio ,
INFORMAZIONI SUL NUMERO:
Città: Sudbury – USA, Canada
Numero: +1978209-9510
Internazionale: 0019782099510
Clinton Berg, self-styled Clinton Berg, is the person from whom I would buy a computer. This is the picture of his WhatsApp profile and All Electronics LTD is the name of the Company.
This are documents we exchanged, but, first of all fake documents Mr Clinton Berg sent to me.

Thanks for your message,
We have the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo UX581 i9-9980H/RTX 2060 15.6 inch OLED 4K UHD NanoEdge touchscreen Laptop available and it is brand new in box, original, 100% genuine and comes with 2 years warranty,
The Asus Zenbook Pro Duo UX581 i9-9980H/RTX 2060 15.6 inch OLED 4K UHD NanoEdge touchscren Laptop Cost $550 ( Per Unit)
How many units do you need ?
29/03/21, 19:36 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Need only one, Is It possible?
29/03/21, 19:37 – Fabio Campagnoni: Its total price with shipment?
29/03/21, 19:37 – Fabio Campagnoni: How many days will I get the delivery if I place the order today?
29/03/21, 19:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes
29/03/21, 19:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Order Summary:
The Asus Zenbook Pro Duo UX581 i9-9980H/RTX 2060 15.6 inch OLED 4K UHD NanoEdge touchscren Laptop Cost $550 ( Per Unit)
Shipping fee: $50
Total fee : $600
29/03/21, 19:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: We are located in Turkey, with another office in the USA, The device is available in our office in Turkey which is where we will make delivery from directly to your address. [verrà in realtà spedito dagli USA]
We ship and make delivery directly to your doorstep by DHL Courier Service. [https://www.cartelogisticsservices.com/home/Track-Shipment] [link to document]
The delivery will take just two (2) days for the goods to arrive at your home and the goods will be delivered directly to your doorstep after payment confirmation.
And also once we have shipped out your order, i will send you a valid DHL tracking number that you will use to track and monitor the delivery of your order online and know when the goods will get to your home.
29/03/21, 19:42 – Fabio Campagnoni: To place order I Just have to use Alibaba app?
29/03/21, 19:45 – +1 (978) 209-9510: No, i will tell you the procedures on how to order here
we do not accept payments on alibaba because it is only china suppliers that uses and benefit mostly from it, so our payment system here doesn’t work with alipay
29/03/21, 19:49 – +1 (978) 209-9510: are you ready to order ? so we can proceed
29/03/21, 19:51 – Fabio Campagnoni: is trade assurance applicable?
29/03/21, 19:52 – +1 (978) 209-9510: your order is trade assured already ok
29/03/21, 19:52 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Regarding my company, we are legit company here, registered under the federal cooperate affairs commission, off which all business carried out by us is monitored by the board.
You have a money back guarantee option.
In any case that you are not happy with the transaction, we will give you a full refund of your money fast, and also we can change the product for you if you are not satisfied with it. so i want you to be satisfied because we will give you the best service OK.
Warranty & Replacement
UNDER 1 YEAR WARRANTY
In case of any unnoticed manufacturer’s faults or item not as described, a seller warranty is available were we issue a full refund as long as item is returned in the same condition. We can also provide a brand new like for like replacement if stock is available.
Regarding Guarantee:-
Firstly i would like you to understand that you are not dealing with a Private person but you are dealing with A company that is Licensed and Registered under the global business scheme, whatever we do and say is under Oath and Record to be abided by Law or we face prosecution .
However , we have been in these Business for a Very Long Term and we know our way Across the Globe, so whatever you order from us is what you shall get at your doorstep.
Company Name:
All Electronics Ltd
Hava Kargo ve Kurye A.S, 15 Temmuz Mahallesi, Gülbahar, KWI 918054, Istanbul, Bagcilar.Gunesli, 34212 Turkey
Also we would like to inform you that all our clients are 100% insured with us because we also offer a Genuine Money Refund Guarantee which we take into effect in cases whereby you feel you are no longer satisfied with our deal or the products get damaged.
29/03/21, 19:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: I have attached to you our company certificate as proof and guarantee that you shall receive the goods without any delays or problem
So i am assuring and giving you 100% guarantee and assurance that you are safe and secure buying from us here.
ok
29/03/21, 19:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210329-WA0005.jpg (file allegato)
29/03/21, 19:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: <Media omessi>
29/03/21, 19:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210329-WA0004.jpg (file allegato)
29/03/21, 21:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I want to Place the order
29/03/21, 21:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Give me the procedure steps
29/03/21, 21:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Payment method: –
1)Bitcoin Transfer
2)Western Union Money Transfer
3) MoneyGram Transfer.
Which of the payment methods above is easy for you in making payment ?
29/03/21, 21:42 – Fabio Campagnoni: 2)
29/03/21, 21:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Good
29/03/21, 21:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: To place order, get back to me with the following details below:
Full Name:
Full Shipping Address:
City:
Telephone number:
29/03/21, 21:44 – Fabio Campagnoni: Full Name : fabio Campagnoni
Country : italy
City : costa volpino
Address : via zocchi 6
Phone number : +39 39 39 48 19 19
29/03/21, 21:46 – +1 (978) 209-9510: We have confirmed your full shipping address and it has been added to our data.
While the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo UX581 i9-9980H/RTX 2060 15.6 inch OLED 4K UHD NanoEdge touchscren will be packaged up and ready for delivery to your address below:
Full Name : fabio Campagnoni
Country : italy
City : costa volpino
Address : via zocchi 6
Phone number : +39 39 39 48 19 19
Please check the address to confirm if it is correct
29/03/21, 21:46 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ?
29/03/21, 21:47 – Fabio Campagnoni: Is correct
29/03/21, 21:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Good
29/03/21, 21:48 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will forward your address now to the shipping company, so they will use it to package up your order and get it ready for shipment
29/03/21, 21:48 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
29/03/21, 21:48 – +1 (978) 209-9510: All you have to do now is for to proceed with the payment, so once we confirm your payment the delivery will proceed to your address
29/03/21, 21:49 – Fabio Campagnoni: The instruction/coordinates to pay are?
29/03/21, 21:51 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : Razh
Receiver Last Name: Gayypov
Address: B block No 08
City : Istanbul
Country : Turkey
29/03/21, 21:59 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you give me the link to your profile in Alibaba?
29/03/21, 22:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: when are you making payment ?
29/03/21, 22:02 – Fabio Campagnoni: I think I’ll proceed within an hour
29/03/21, 22:03 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
29/03/21, 22:03 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you give me the link to your profile in Alibaba?
29/03/21, 22:06 – +1 (978) 209-9510: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-New-As-us-Zenbook-Pro_1600205970129.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.10dd2a60J9rGUZ
29/03/21, 22:06 – +1 (978) 209-9510: note, we only communicate with our clients and buyers here on whatsapp and email and all transactions are recorded
29/03/21, 22:07 – +1 (978) 209-9510: so you only contact us here and email if you wanna ask any question or order
29/03/21, 22:07 – +1 (978) 209-9510: is that clear fabio
29/03/21, 22:09 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
29/03/21, 22:10 – +1 (978) 209-9510: So you paying in 1 hour time ? i need to be sure so i can inform the shipping company to prepare for shipment
29/03/21, 22:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: Yes.. im proceding…
29/03/21, 22:19 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, proceed
29/03/21, 22:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210329-WA0009.jpg (file allegato)
29/03/21, 22:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: I chosed cash payment
29/03/21, 22:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: Its ok?
29/03/21, 22:30 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210329-WA0010.jpg (file allegato)
I have to fill this informations
29/03/21, 22:30 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you give me email?
29/03/21, 22:31 – Fabio Campagnoni: Your email and telephone number Is the One you are using bere?
29/03/21, 22:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: Here?
29/03/21, 22:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Its too late… Can i Place tomorrow?
29/03/21, 22:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello
29/03/21, 22:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: lets proceed
29/03/21, 22:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will assist you
29/03/21, 22:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
29/03/21, 22:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: email is : adamnorman53@gmail.com
29/03/21, 22:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: phone number: +905000919119
29/03/21, 22:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: correct
29/03/21, 22:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
29/03/21, 23:02 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, we will talk in the morning to complete the payment
30/03/21, 07:23 – Fabio Campagnoni: La tua banca ha rifiutato il trasferimento perché i fondi sono insufficienti o la somma trasferita eccede i limiti di trasferimento bancario. Riprova immettendo un importo inferiore.
30/03/21, 07:23 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210330-WA0000.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 07:23 – Fabio Campagnoni: Your bank declined the transfer because there are insufficient funds or the amount transferred exceeds the bank transfer limits. Please try again by entering a lower amount.
30/03/21, 10:22 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello
30/03/21, 10:26 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you here ?
30/03/21, 10:29 – +1 (978) 209-9510: go to any western union agent location around you and make the transfer
30/03/21, 10:29 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
30/03/21, 10:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you here ?
30/03/21, 10:46 – Fabio Campagnoni: Excuse me im in classroom
I’m a teacher
30/03/21, 10:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: oh ok
30/03/21, 10:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: can you quickly go to western union location to transfer the money cash
30/03/21, 10:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ?
30/03/21, 10:49 – +1 (978) 209-9510: because your order has been packaged and it is ready for delivery
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0001.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0003.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0002.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0004.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0005.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0006.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 10:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210330-WA0007.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 11:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: can you do that today ?
30/03/21, 11:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: answer me
30/03/21, 11:05 – Fabio Campagnoni: Surely
30/03/21, 11:06 – +1 (978) 209-9510: what time can you go to western union to make the payment ?
30/03/21, 11:06 – Fabio Campagnoni: I have to look for a western Union point first
30/03/21, 11:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: Its my First Time…
30/03/21, 11:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now i have new lesson
30/03/21, 11:07 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i can help you search western union in your city
30/03/21, 11:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m in Clusone Italy
30/03/21, 11:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: Thany
30/03/21, 11:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: Thanks
30/03/21, 11:08 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, i will send you all western union in clusone now
30/03/21, 11:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below are list of western union around your city :
MAESTRI MARIA CRISTINA
Piazza Repubblica 2
Clusone, Bergamo, 24023
BIGONI ROSSELLA TABACCHI E LOTTO
Via Dottor Luigi Carrara 1
Clusone, Bergamo, 24023
CARTA E PENNA DI BARBARA COMINELLI
Via Alessandro Volta 30
Cerete, Bergamo, 24020
MARIA BERTONI
Via Nazionale 204
Costa Volpino, Bergamo, 24062
DIARIO DI VIAGGIO DI BONINO FRANCESCO
Via Lady Wortley Montagu 2 B
Costa Volpino, Bergamo, 24062
30/03/21, 11:15 – +1 (978) 209-9510: check them and go to any of these location and transfer the fee
30/03/21, 11:17 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok ?
30/03/21, 11:17 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
30/03/21, 13:58 – Fabio Campagnoni: I payed
30/03/21, 14:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: send me the receipt for confirmation
30/03/21, 14:07 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ??
30/03/21, 14:08 – +1 (978) 209-9510: have you made the payment ? can you send us the confirmation photo or slip ?
30/03/21, 14:09 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
30/03/21, 14:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Hello Fabio
30/03/21, 14:27 – +1 (978) 209-9510: when you come online send us the payment receipt or photo for confirmation ok
30/03/21, 15:03 – Fabio Campagnoni: I sent to a friend 😂😂😂
30/03/21, 15:03 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210330-WA0021.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 15:03 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i don’t understand ?
30/03/21, 15:04 – Fabio Campagnoni: I was connected to a classroom
30/03/21, 15:04 – Fabio Campagnoni: And then i sent photo ti a friend
30/03/21, 15:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, resend it to me
30/03/21, 15:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you did the payment already right ?
30/03/21, 15:06 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, can you please send a clear picture
30/03/21, 15:08 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok ?
30/03/21, 15:13 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210330-WA0022.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 15:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: good
30/03/21, 15:15 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now you can send me the laptop!
30/03/21, 15:15 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes sure, i will forward the receipt now to our accountant for confirmation ok
30/03/21, 15:16 – +1 (978) 209-9510: once the delivery process starts i will inform you and once delivery start i will also send you a message here ok
30/03/21, 15:16 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will surely keep you updated on delivery
30/03/21, 15:16 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
30/03/21, 15:17 – Fabio Campagnoni: How many days Will start the delivery processo?
30/03/21, 15:17 – +1 (978) 209-9510: today of course
30/03/21, 15:20 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
30/03/21, 15:24 – +1 (978) 209-9510: 🤝🏻
30/03/21, 15:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210330-WA0025.jpg (file allegato)
30/03/21, 15:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: I prefere!
30/03/21, 15:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: 😊
30/03/21, 15:26 – +1 (978) 209-9510: 😁
30/03/21, 15:26 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we will do that one day together and drinks on me ok
30/03/21, 15:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Will return with pleasure
30/03/21, 15:28 – +1 (978) 209-9510: 👍🏻
30/03/21, 15:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: I stayed three days in instanbul and i think its fantastic
30/03/21, 15:29 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes sure
that will be good someday
30/03/21, 15:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: Istikal kaddesi was our preferred street for walk.. hotel in taksim… Galata.. shops.. bazar… Santa Sofia… Topkapi..
30/03/21, 15:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Your Great Ataturk
30/03/21, 15:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now i wayt for PC…
30/03/21, 15:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Bye
30/03/21, 15:34 – +1 (978) 209-9510: have a nice day my friend
30/03/21, 15:34 – +1 (978) 209-9510: 👍🏻🤝🏻
30/03/21, 15:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: 👌
30/03/21, 18:18 – Fabio Campagnoni: Po’
Delivery process Is starter?
30/03/21, 18:18 – Fabio Campagnoni: Started?
30/03/21, 18:21 – +1 (978) 209-9510: started delivery process already ok
30/03/21, 18:23 – Fabio Campagnoni: When i Will receive shipping tracking?
30/03/21, 18:25 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will send you the tracking number once i receive it from the shipping company when shipping starts
30/03/21, 18:25 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
30/03/21, 18:26 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
30/03/21, 21:10 – Fabio Campagnoni: Is confirmed my order in Alibaba?
30/03/21, 21:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210330-WA0028.jpg (file allegato)
31/03/21, 03:48 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, it’s my First purchase in Alibaba.
31/03/21, 03:49 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Will receive laptop isn’t It?
31/03/21, 03:57 – Fabio Campagnoni: bana nazikçe cevap verir misin?
31/03/21, 04:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello
31/03/21, 04:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i was not in office , i told your order is safe and will get to you ok
31/03/21, 04:01 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
31/03/21, 04:01 – Fabio Campagnoni: Thanks
31/03/21, 12:22 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Questo messaggio è stato eliminato
31/03/21, 12:22 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will send your tracking number today ok
31/03/21, 13:41 – Fabio Campagnoni: Thanks 😊
31/03/21, 15:47 – Fabio Campagnoni: News?
31/03/21, 19:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes i am gonna send it once i get to office today, i am in a business meeting ok
31/03/21, 19:06 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
01/04/21, 02:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Tracking details to your order.
Tracking Number : US10109IT04
Tracking Link URL : https://www.cartelogisticsservices.com/home/Track-Shipment
Thanks.
01/04/21, 02:45 – Fabio Campagnoni: 💪
01/04/21, 02:45 – +1 (978) 209-9510: 🤝🏻
01/04/21, 22:35 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hi, the delivery is blocked…. why?
02/04/21, 04:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210402-WA0000.jpg (file allegato)
02/04/21, 04:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210402-WA0001.jpg (file allegato)
02/04/21, 04:08 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210402-WA0002.jpg (file allegato)
02/04/21, 04:10 – Fabio Campagnoni: Origin service area Is this
02/04/21, 04:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: Im not worried, im very worried
02/04/21, 10:31 – Fabio Campagnoni: can i have updates please?
02/04/21, 10:32 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello
02/04/21, 10:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: hello
02/04/21, 10:32 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i am contacting the shipping company
02/04/21, 10:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: thank you
02/04/21, 15:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, news?
02/04/21, 15:08 – Fabio Campagnoni: I see that’s moving…
02/04/21, 15:08 – Fabio Campagnoni: And tomorrow will be in my home? “Estimated Delivery Date : Saturday, April 03, 2021”
02/04/21, 15:09 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes sure
02/04/21, 15:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: 👌
03/04/21, 07:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello,can you contact shipping company?
03/04/21, 13:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Hi
03/04/21, 13:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i’m doing that now
03/04/21, 13:14 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
03/04/21, 13:59 – Fabio Campagnoni: “Package On Hold By Custom” what does It means?
03/04/21, 14:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i just contacted the shipping company and they said customs held the package and require customs and tax clearance charges,
i am waiting for them to send me a message to show you with the customs seizure document
03/04/21, 14:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: please hold
03/04/21, 14:03 – Fabio Campagnoni: How much are the customs clearance fees usually?
03/04/21, 14:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i am waiting for the full details, i will send to you here ok
03/04/21, 14:05 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
03/04/21, 14:37 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Hello Fabio ,
I will like to inform you on the latest update on your package , the package has been placed on our hold at the Customs office and they are requesting for the Customs charges due to the customs criteria and they have requested for a Excise Duty Fee to be paid for customs and tax clearance , The sum of $450 has to be paid before they can release the goods and continue the shipment and the Fee needs to be paid before today runs out because we will not like to delay the delivery of your order, so your order can arrive your address today
i have also attached the customs seizure document for proof that your order has been held by customs.
03/04/21, 14:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: <Media omessi>
03/04/21, 14:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: <Media omessi>
03/04/21, 14:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: waiting for your answer
03/04/21, 14:44 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i’m also told the customs and tax clearance document is valid for 3 years and can be renewed which mens you will have no problem with duty or customs when buying from any country worldwide
03/04/21, 14:44 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
03/04/21, 14:46 – Fabio Campagnoni: I read that you declared valute of good Is 450 $ not that i have to pay 450 $… Where do you read that i have to pay 450$??
03/04/21, 14:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: check the customs seizure document is is stated that customs and tax clearance charges cost $450
03/04/21, 14:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i just forwarded the message and document to you as i received from the shipping company
03/04/21, 14:48 – Fabio Campagnoni: If i refuse the good?
03/04/21, 14:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: the goods is with customs and cannot move back because it is close to your address and can arrive today once it is cleared and also you will be compensated after goods get to your address
03/04/21, 14:52 – Fabio Campagnoni: Excuse im now occupied… Let me an hour
03/04/21, 14:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, you mean you can pay in an hour
so i can inform the shipping company
03/04/21, 14:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ?
03/04/21, 14:55 – Fabio Campagnoni: I dont know if i Will pay in an hour… You know i had some problems last time..
03/04/21, 14:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i want you to receive today, so just try and make this payment for customs because that is the only way they can release goods and delivery can continue to your address today
once goods arrive your address, we will surely compensate you on it
trust me
03/04/21, 15:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: First it’s really impossible that i receive today because here its 3 pm… Tomorrow Is easter so shipping Will not arrive before next tuesday…
Today im in my book shop until 18..
03/04/21, 15:12 – Fabio Campagnoni: Spain Is 2000 km far from Italy
03/04/21, 15:12 – +1 (978) 209-9510: first of all the delivery already started and Easter cannot stop the delivery because goods is coming directly to your home address
03/04/21, 15:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: secondly we are using an express delivery and nothing can delay it once customs and tax is cleared
03/04/21, 15:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: so if delivery starts today, and goods doesn’t arrive today because of time, then it will arrive surely tomorrow without any problem
03/04/21, 15:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i know well about it, so i am telling you fact ok
03/04/21, 15:19 – Fabio Campagnoni: as I told you I am busy as a clerk in my library and I am alone … today it is impossible for me to make the payment that the customs ask me for
03/04/21, 15:19 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210403-WA0008.jpg (file allegato)
03/04/21, 15:24 – +1 (978) 209-9510: so when can you make payment ? and can’t you pay online ?
03/04/21, 15:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: Three days ago I had problems to pay online… So I payd 30 $ paying in a western Union point… Today i cant…
03/04/21, 15:29 – Fabio Campagnoni: I am busy in my book shop
03/04/21, 15:29 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ill do tomorrow
03/04/21, 15:31 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, tomorrow is ok, you can pay in the morning tomorrow
03/04/21, 15:32 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will inform them
03/04/21, 18:57 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, i think there Is a problem: hm revenew and customs Is UK’s tax, payments and customs authority: it collect the money that pays for the UK’s public services and help families and individuals with targeted financial support.
03/04/21, 18:58 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m italian and taxes are dues to italian authority
03/04/21, 18:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: no, you don’t understand , they are connected to other countries in Europe and with their customs and tax approval document there will be no customs difficulties anywhere from Europe and even applicable worldwide and it is valid for 3 years and can be renewed
03/04/21, 19:04 – Fabio Campagnoni: this purchase is making me suffer, the seller is based in a caravan depot, the shipping website is an empty container that you update whenever i send you reminder. my serious intention was to start many purchases but now I’m very tired
03/04/21, 19:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: relax fabio , you will receive your order i am 100% sure and certain
03/04/21, 19:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we will surely do more business together in future after this ok
03/04/21, 19:05 – +1 (978) 209-9510: just clear the goods and your order will be delivered
03/04/21, 19:09 – Fabio Campagnoni: let me check with the right time, if you are a reliable and serious seller you have no problem waiting. customs wait for payment for three weeks. you have already received the money so you can wait.
03/04/21, 19:10 – +1 (978) 209-9510: all i can tell you is delay is risky and shipping company can charge you more for delay and also customs here can rusticate goods if not cleared
03/04/21, 19:12 – Fabio Campagnoni: All i can tell you Is that you received the money you asked me for the PC.
03/04/21, 19:13 – Fabio Campagnoni: I think you can be satisfied
03/04/21, 19:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
05/04/21, 11:51 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello??
06/04/21, 12:00 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, i write to All Electronics LTD and they asked to provide theme my customer number.
Can you send my customer number?
Thanks
Fabio Campagnoni
06/04/21, 13:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we did not get any email from you and which all electronics did you write ? there are many companies with that name online
06/04/21, 13:36 – Fabio Campagnoni: <Media omessi>
06/04/21, 13:36 – Fabio Campagnoni: There Is only one with this informations
06/04/21, 13:37 – +1 (978) 209-9510: where did you contact them ? what email or website because our store has no website available now
06/04/21, 13:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: and also the shipping company said if the delivery if not done today, they will charge you for delay or head back to their office
06/04/21, 13:39 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210406-WA0003.jpg (file allegato)
06/04/21, 13:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we did not get any email from you
06/04/21, 13:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: show us the email and who you write to
06/04/21, 13:40 – Fabio Campagnoni: Please, send me customer number
06/04/21, 13:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i said you contacted another company not us , show me email ?
06/04/21, 13:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you are delaying and it is causing a big mess here
06/04/21, 13:45 – Fabio Campagnoni: Please send me additional informations about Company
I have payed what Is due for computer
06/04/21, 13:46 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i have told you the delay and problem and it is getting too much and we already getting messages from customs
06/04/21, 13:47 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210406-WA0004.jpg (file allegato)
06/04/21, 13:47 – Fabio Campagnoni: Please send me informations about Company so i can write to Company
06/04/21, 13:48 – +1 (978) 209-9510: adamnorman53@gmail.com
06/04/21, 13:48 – Fabio Campagnoni: And Company?
06/04/21, 13:49 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210406-WA0003.jpg (file allegato)
You
06/04/21, 13:49 – Fabio Campagnoni: You written the shipment is started from this address
06/04/21, 13:50 – Fabio Campagnoni: So I write to this Company
06/04/21, 13:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: listen you have only today to pay or the shipping company will leave goods and head back to their base and customs will increase the fee or rusticate the goods
06/04/21, 13:50 – +1 (978) 209-9510: then show me the email you write to
06/04/21, 13:50 – Fabio Campagnoni: You can find in their websites
06/04/21, 13:51 – +1 (978) 209-9510: today is the last day for you
06/04/21, 13:53 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210406-WA0005.jpg (file allegato)
paid for customs and received package yesterday
I personally went to Dolo at the address via giovanni da verazzano 2 because it is not far from my house and no one says they know Mr. Noce Massimiliano
06/04/21, 13:56 – Fabio Campagnoni: Why you dont confirm me that the Company Is the One in written in customs document?
06/04/21, 14:02 – +1 (978) 209-9510: that is just the address of where the goods was shipped from man
06/04/21, 14:02 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i have told you the truth , you are jut delaying and you have only today to pay
06/04/21, 14:06 – Fabio Campagnoni: please, we are talking about a total of 1000 dollars
you have already received the money but you do not want to give me the information I ask you.
it is absolutely incorrect behavior.
06/04/21, 14:08 – Fabio Campagnoni: what you are writing is offensive and it is you who must provide me with the information I ask
I have no problem paying the $ 450
06/04/21, 14:09 – +1 (978) 209-9510: what information, you went on to send a wrong message to another company and you here telling me i’m been offensive ? hell no
you are the one been offensive and not helping issues here
another buyer from Italy paid and received goods yesterday and i’m telling you
06/04/21, 14:09 – Fabio Campagnoni: Send me informations, than i check if you said the truth, then i pay
06/04/21, 14:10 – Fabio Campagnoni: Give me his telephone number, i call him, then i pay
06/04/21, 14:11 – Fabio Campagnoni: The Italian buyer
06/04/21, 14:11 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i am telling you the truth and only solution here ad today is the last day given to you
06/04/21, 14:12 – Fabio Campagnoni: You have to give me informations to check you said the truth… You already received Money
06/04/21, 14:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i cannot give out any customer contact number due to security reasons and we are warned never to do that
06/04/21, 14:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i can only see you choose to delay
06/04/21, 14:16 – Fabio Campagnoni: I already looked for Person Who lives in dolo, i have some friend that lives there andthey dont know a studio Artuso
06/04/21, 14:16 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m near Venice and i frequently go there in Summer
06/04/21, 14:18 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i just told you i cannot give out customer contact number, i am not supposed to even show you his package but all this is for you to trust but still you delay
i have nothing else to prove to you, all i can say is that your order will arrive your address after payment
today is the final day
bye
06/04/21, 14:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: are you therefore telling me to contact this person
06/04/21, 14:30 – +1 (978) 209-9510: You asked for email to contact us , gave you, you said you want to confirm from the store and i did
06/04/21, 14:31 – +1 (978) 209-9510: all this are more delay, i know how it is risky not paying today, Mr fabio go and make payment now so goods can be cleared and delivered
06/04/21, 14:32 – +1 (978) 209-9510: this is all i have to tell you as a friend and brother
06/04/21, 14:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Customs can hold shipment until three week. I write to adamnorman53@gmail.com
06/04/21, 14:33 – +1 (978) 209-9510: it is not not so here , it is not so here, you only want this goods rusticated
06/04/21, 14:33 – +1 (978) 209-9510: today is the last day given to you by the customs and shipping company
06/04/21, 14:34 – +1 (978) 209-9510: after today the shipping team will go back to their base and also customs will increase fee or take it for rustication
06/04/21, 14:35 – Fabio Campagnoni: If Will increase fee i Will pay…
06/04/21, 14:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 14:36 – Fabio Campagnoni: I don’t want to lose another $ 450
06/04/21, 14:37 – Fabio Campagnoni: I wayt for Adam normar reply
06/04/21, 14:42 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you will never lose anything , you will not lose your money, it is a promise
06/04/21, 14:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, i am he is on deck in the office and will reply
06/04/21, 14:53 – Fabio Campagnoni: I have read the answer but I have not found an answer to my requests
I would like to receive a sincere answer from you: why the company marked on the customs documents that denies having sent me this goods?
06/04/21, 14:55 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i am sincere and honest
06/04/21, 14:55 – +1 (978) 209-9510: customs seized your order and we told you with proof of their seizure document
06/04/21, 14:56 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you are the one delaying
06/04/21, 14:57 – Fabio Campagnoni: then I will contact customs. Can you please provide me with an email address or phone number
06/04/21, 14:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: customscare-romania-gov@europe.com
06/04/21, 15:00 – Fabio Campagnoni: then I will contact customs. Can you please provide me with an email address or phone number
06/04/21, 15:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: here is the email , they only reach better on email and faster
06/04/21, 15:01 – Fabio Campagnoni: My intention is to make other purchases and I hope that the purchase I am making closes positively
06/04/21, 15:02 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we are ready to do more business with you after this and there will be no more problem
06/04/21, 15:09 – +1 (978) 209-9510: time is going today , try and go pay up this fee today, i know why i am telling you this
06/04/21, 15:13 – Fabio Campagnoni: I already written ti customs
06/04/21, 15:15 – Fabio Campagnoni: You can read my request to customs because I sent the email to you too
06/04/21, 15:17 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 15:18 – Fabio Campagnoni: the address don’t exist!!! 550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
06/04/21, 15:18 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i don’t understand ?
we talk to customs on that email
06/04/21, 15:19 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m sorry. I got the address wrong
06/04/21, 15:20 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you are just delaying ok
06/04/21, 15:22 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now I sent to email adderess you gave me
06/04/21, 15:22 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes, that is their email and they respond fast on email
06/04/21, 15:23 – Fabio Campagnoni: ok
06/04/21, 15:24 – Fabio Campagnoni: while I am waiting for the response from customs I would like to know if you have a catalog of the products that I can buy.
I have a shop (the bookshop www.emporiodelleidee.org) where I also want to sell IT products.
06/04/21, 15:28 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will arrange a catalog for you after this is solved
06/04/21, 15:29 – Fabio Campagnoni: ok
06/04/21, 15:30 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes, did they answer you yet ?
06/04/21, 15:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: yes … finally I have an answer from a person other than you … I feel more serene and notice that I pay today
06/04/21, 15:33 – +1 (978) 209-9510: they replied you ?
06/04/21, 15:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: they replied
06/04/21, 15:33 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 15:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello Mr Fabio ,
After i went thorugh names of goods seized here, i found out that yours and 1 other buyer from Italy order was seized for customs and tax clearance fee.
we contacted your supplier to inform you and sent them those document you attached here as proof becaue most buyers dont believe their suppliers that customs can stop goods anywhere
well, your order has been seized here on saturday and we require that a payment of $450 will be paid before we can approve the goods for sending to your address
your supplier should tell you how to make the payment for the goods to be cleared ad approved.
i also checked and found out this goods is staying too long here which means it has a possibility of been tagged illegal goods i no one clears it and it will be damaged or acutioned out to other buyers
the other buyer from italy has paid and goods was cleared and released
so we are waiting for the payment of $450 to clear yours and release it, or else if it is not cleared it can be damaged and if it still stays the fee will be increased by $50 everyday
Regards
06/04/21, 15:35 – Fabio Campagnoni: how should i proceed for the payment?
06/04/21, 15:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok good
06/04/21, 15:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: just proceed with payment like the first time, our accountant will forward to the shipping company to clear the goods asap ok
06/04/21, 15:37 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hold on
06/04/21, 15:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : Batyr
Receiver Last Name: Zakirov
Address: B block No 08
City : Istanbul
Country : Turkey
06/04/21, 15:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: this is the accountant available to receive and forward the fee fast for the goods to be cleared ok
06/04/21, 15:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
06/04/21, 15:38 – Fabio Campagnoni: i’m in a videocall
06/04/21, 15:38 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : Batyr
Receiver Last Name: Zakirov
Address: B block No 08
City : Istanbul
Country : Turkey
06/04/21, 15:38 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210406-WA0007.jpg (file allegato)
06/04/21, 15:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: do you understand ?
06/04/21, 15:39 – Fabio Campagnoni: yes
06/04/21, 15:39 – Fabio Campagnoni: razh gayypov
06/04/21, 15:39 – Fabio Campagnoni: last time
06/04/21, 15:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: do you want to pay online or agent , i think agent is better
06/04/21, 15:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: no
06/04/21, 15:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : Batyr
Receiver Last Name: Zakirov
Address: B block No 08
City : Istanbul
Country : Turkey
06/04/21, 15:39 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Receiver First Name : Batyr
Receiver Last Name: Zakirov
06/04/21, 15:40 – Fabio Campagnoni: now i’m at home in a videocall… so i cant go to agent
06/04/21, 15:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: western union online has little issues , they will put payment on review
06/04/21, 15:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: try and go to agent after your video call
06/04/21, 15:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: and this is the new name you paying to
06/04/21, 15:41 – +1 (978) 209-9510: do you understand ?
06/04/21, 15:42 – Fabio Campagnoni: I can go to an agent, but it costs me 29 euros more … I can send you 400 dollars instead of 450?
06/04/21, 15:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: let me help you, go to agent now , remove the 29 euro from the $450 and send the balance
06/04/21, 15:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: do you understand ?
06/04/21, 15:43 – Fabio Campagnoni: ok.. .i go now… videocall is ended..
06/04/21, 15:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok , so how much will be total you sending
06/04/21, 15:43 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ?
06/04/21, 15:44 – +1 (978) 209-9510: $420 if you remove the sending fee
06/04/21, 15:44 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 15:44 – +1 (978) 209-9510: just remove the sending fee and send the remaining ok
06/04/21, 15:52 – Fabio Campagnoni: I made an appointment at the agency at 17:45 (Italian time) – in two hours
06/04/21, 15:56 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 15:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : Batyr
Receiver Last Name: Zakirov
Address: B block No 08
City : Istanbul
Country : Turkey
06/04/21, 15:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok?
06/04/21, 15:59 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
06/04/21, 17:52 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Hello
06/04/21, 17:52 – +1 (978) 209-9510: have you done the payment ?
06/04/21, 17:55 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m in agency
06/04/21, 17:55 – Fabio Campagnoni: Three munites and i finished
06/04/21, 17:58 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 17:59 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210406-WA0012.jpg (file allegato)
413 euro
06/04/21, 18:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, send a clear receipt
06/04/21, 18:01 – Fabio Campagnoni: I arrive at home and i send it
06/04/21, 18:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 18:07 – Fabio Campagnoni: 413 x 1.09 = 450 $
06/04/21, 18:09 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210406-WA0016.jpg (file allegato)
06/04/21, 18:15 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
06/04/21, 18:24 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok, now i Will receive my shipping tomorrow and i can track It in website…
06/04/21, 18:34 – +1 (978) 209-9510: once the customs approve and clears the goods it will be delivered to you ok
so now we wait for customs ok
06/04/21, 18:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
07/04/21, 07:53 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, Can you ask customs about my Shipping?
07/04/21, 12:16 – +1 (978) 209-9510: yes, they are still processing the approval and clearance, would be finished today ok
07/04/21, 12:19 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
07/04/21, 13:54 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, there are problems in customs? I see that nothing Is changed in tracking website
07/04/21, 13:56 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i will contact the shipping company to confirm
can you ask the customs ?
07/04/21, 13:57 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok
07/04/21, 14:01 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210407-WA0001.jpg (file allegato)
07/04/21, 14:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
07/04/21, 15:40 – +1 (978) 209-9510: any update from them ?
07/04/21, 15:43 – Fabio Campagnoni: IMG-20210407-WA0002.jpg (file allegato)
07/04/21, 15:43 – Fabio Campagnoni: send us your valid EU importation license here because it will be used for final processing
07/04/21, 15:44 – Fabio Campagnoni: They asked that they have to receive “importation license”
Can you send it please?
07/04/21, 15:49 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok, send them your valid EU importation license since it is required , i’m sure you know have it
have you replied to them ?
07/04/21, 15:50 – Fabio Campagnoni: I dont know what is importation licence
07/04/21, 15:55 – +1 (978) 209-9510: you don’t have an import license ? wow
message them and tell them you do not have it
07/04/21, 15:55 – Fabio Campagnoni: Why?
07/04/21, 15:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: can you just reply them and they will tell you if there is another solution
07/04/21, 15:58 – Fabio Campagnoni: Please, reply you to me, i think you know the answer
07/04/21, 15:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Information just reached us that there will be need to get An Import License that is verified with your Name And ready to be shown at the port of entry for Accessing before we can bring the Goods Into Italy today
So we would like you please send us a Copy of the Import License to be able to be verified when we forward the details to the Director of Trade at the EU .
07/04/21, 15:59 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we just received an email from them
07/04/21, 16:00 – +1 (978) 209-9510: The import license, which is required now is basically designed for individuals who make purchases internationally and want to deliver to their country
And the reason for the sudden requirement is because it is now a new law and rule by the European Trade Union
if you provide us the import license , you shall be able to receive your package by today or tomorrow morning .
07/04/21, 16:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: This is the message we got from them and we have replied them
07/04/21, 16:01 – +1 (978) 209-9510: they said it is required that without it the goods cannot be approved and sent to your today
07/04/21, 16:02 – +1 (978) 209-9510: That means you need to get the license
07/04/21, 16:02 – Fabio Campagnoni: I have to Ask this document… I dont have now
07/04/21, 16:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: the license have to be verified with your Name and details
07/04/21, 16:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: You can contact them if they can help you get it or if you want my boss to help you get it fast from the EU today
07/04/21, 16:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ??
07/04/21, 16:08 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello ??
07/04/21, 16:08 – Fabio Campagnoni: I write
07/04/21, 16:13 – Fabio Campagnoni: I dont have 500 euro licence
07/04/21, 16:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
07/04/21, 16:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: what did they say ?
07/04/21, 16:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ?
07/04/21, 16:17 – +1 (978) 209-9510: hello ? i have contacted my boss about the license if he can help you get it
but i need to hear from you
what did the customs say 500 euro for ?
07/04/21, 16:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: For importation licence
07/04/21, 16:28 – Fabio Campagnoni: I finished my Money
07/04/21, 16:28 – +1 (978) 209-9510: my boss is a good friend to the director of EU and he can help you get the license fast today and less not $500
07/04/21, 16:29 – +1 (978) 209-9510: so are you ready for this fast opportunity and get it so goods can be released because the customs cannot release the goods without the license
07/04/21, 16:29 – +1 (978) 209-9510: my boss can get it for $400 as he already contacted them
07/04/21, 16:31 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210407-WA0003.jpg (file allegato)
07/04/21, 16:31 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Since you have mentioned now that you do not have the Import License , i have immediately contacted my boss and he has forwarded to me a sample copy of the Application form which is required by the European Trade Union to help you get the import license immediately .
Also take note that before the license could be issued to you a fee must be paid in entirety by you.
Please note that normally if there is an application for an import license, it takes a long time before it can be considered to applicants, but do not worry, because my boss is aware of these situation and he will make sure that once License Fee is Paid they will hurry to issue you an application ID and import license on time, so you can still get the goods tomorrow.
We would like you to have it in the back of your mind, that what we are trying to do here is make sure that there is no delay in delivery so we want to help you in such situations so it won’t be stressful for you.
These would be a Great Opportunity for you because once you have these License because you will be Able to make use of the License for a period of 4 years and you can make purchase of whatever you want without any problems and then after it has expired , you can renew its Validity .
and remember that after the Fee is paid we can help you get the license and there won’t be need to go through much troubles before we can deliver the product today or tomorrow morning .
07/04/21, 16:32 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Chiamata vocale persa
07/04/21, 17:19 – Fabio Campagnoni: I really finished my Money.
I Ask you to help me because i cant pay. The cost i planned was 500 euros… Than they become 1000.
07/04/21, 19:04 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we have asked and nothing can be done without the license
you need to get it here
07/04/21, 19:06 – Fabio Campagnoni: I cant
07/04/21, 19:07 – +1 (978) 209-9510: for GOD sake there is nothing we can do here and the fee can only be paid entity by you because your name and details will be used to get the license
07/04/21, 19:09 – +1 (978) 209-9510: IMG-20210407-WA0006.jpg (file allegato)
07/04/21, 19:10 – +1 (978) 209-9510: they showed us a copy of a client import license that was paid for and good was released
07/04/21, 19:10 – +1 (978) 209-9510: Without the license the goods cannot be delivered or released
07/04/21, 19:10 – +1 (978) 209-9510: my boss can get it cheaper and faster
07/04/21, 19:13 – +1 (978) 209-9510: at this stage delay is risky trust me man
07/04/21, 19:13 – Fabio Campagnoni: I am deeply sorry
since you’re talking about god, this trade is damned. I have no more money and I can not do anything. you can order the customs to have the goods sent back to you
07/04/21, 19:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: at this stage the goods cannot be released or sent back
07/04/21, 19:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: not even possible
07/04/21, 19:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: and also they told us that that the shipping company packaged 3 asus laptop in the package
07/04/21, 19:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: instead of 1
07/04/21, 19:14 – +1 (978) 209-9510: so at this point there is nothing we can do
07/04/21, 19:16 – Fabio Campagnoni: then they will stay at customs and if they want to come and get me they know exactly where to find me.
you have the money and you are happy.
07/04/21, 19:16 – Fabio Campagnoni: Bye
07/04/21, 19:16 – +1 (978) 209-9510: the receipt of payment of the license will be scanned and sent to the custom because they will attach the payment receipt to the customs clearance document
so the fee can only be paid by you because the payment receipt will be needed and sent to them
i am telling you the truth
07/04/21, 19:20 – +1 (978) 209-9510: what is the meaning of this ?
07/04/21, 19:27 – Fabio Campagnoni: I no longer question that you are lying. I say that I have no more money to spend so I don’t have a solution to the problem
07/04/21, 19:28 – +1 (978) 209-9510: lying ? me ? i am disappointed in what you just said
07/04/21, 19:29 – Fabio Campagnoni: maybe google translate has translated wrong. I have no doubt that you are telling the truth
07/04/21, 19:32 – Fabio Campagnoni: I cant pay. So i cant solve the problem.
07/04/21, 19:34 – Fabio Campagnoni: i am an honest person and i can’t do more. I hoped to be able to buy a good computer without spending too much, instead I spent a lot and I will not have a computer. I hope you can give me some money back
07/04/21, 19:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: i really wanna help you but the problem is that the payment receipt will be presented
07/04/21, 19:35 – +1 (978) 209-9510: if you can even pay $350 my boss will do his best because that is the only solution
07/04/21, 19:40 – Fabio Campagnoni: you probably didn’t understand: I can’t pay
I don’t have that money you ask me
07/04/21, 19:41 – +1 (978) 209-9510: really don’t know , you can ask someone to lend you when you receive the goods you pay back , goods cannot stay there
07/04/21, 19:43 – Fabio Campagnoni: I can Ask to you, for example. You have 1000 $ that i sent you
07/04/21, 19:43 – Fabio Campagnoni: I dont Ask no One to lend me Money
07/04/21, 19:49 – Fabio Campagnoni: I will appreciate the help you can give me since I have the serious intention of starting a business of importing computer material
07/04/21, 20:44 – Fabio Campagnoni: So you dont want to help me. You can send me good than in April 23 i Will receive my salary from school and I’ll pay your 350 $
08/04/21, 04:45 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you help me?
08/04/21, 04:45 – Fabio Campagnoni: If you dont help me i lost my money
08/04/21, 04:46 – +1 (978) 209-9510: we have been on this issue but we are not allowed to lend you money to help you pay
but we asked the customs to give you little time for gather money and pay , we begged for them to keep goods safe and not increase fee
08/04/21, 04:51 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok, in 23 April i Will pay the 350 $ you asked
Thanks 😊
08/04/21, 04:52 – +1 (978) 209-9510: if you can pay before 23 it is better too ok
08/04/21, 04:57 – Fabio Campagnoni: I dont know if It Is possible, but in 23 April surely i do
08/04/21, 04:57 – +1 (978) 209-9510: ok
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09/04/21, 16:17 – Fabio Campagnoni: +19782099510
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: All informations I collected together with others you Discover in next days of you don’t send me computer
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Today i finished with you
Bye
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: If all Electronics exists, send me address, websites so i can verify please. All informations you sent me are wrong and ambigous
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Your customer in Italy doesnt exists
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I feel a deep disappointment for all the inaccurate data you have provided me for an expense of mine that you already have in your pockets of more than 1000 $
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: if you really are a sincere person give me your exact information and exact references of the company all Electronics (website, social profiles).
then explain to me why on Alibaba you present yourself as onyx llc and not as all Electronics
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: All thing i do, my 1000 $, my informations are real
Your informations repeatedly contradict each other
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, today I received an official reply that the documents you sent me are fake. I can wait for goods or contact authorities: What you want to do?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: If you read you understand
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Bureau Veritas reply that 11221507 Is not All Electronics LTD
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: You send me this certificate together others that I submitted to certification authorities that issued the documents
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: And they are claiming they are fakes
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i never sent you a fake document ok
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: never
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: For example this document is fake
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: You sent me this document
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Bureau Veritas said that Is fake
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m not saying it, Bureau Veritas says it
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: This is an official authority that stated the documents you sent me is fake. I can wait for goods or contact authorities: What you want to do?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: You are my contact now. Not All Electronics LTD.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: To me, now, you are a liar
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: What are you going to do if I’m right?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: lies
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i am not a liar
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you answer to me?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i’ll refund everything if you do not receive your order after payment
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now authorities Say im right and your documents are fakes
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i said it is a lie, i never send fake documents
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’d be crazy to send more money … you think I’m crazy
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I contacted authority
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you answer to me?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i answer you already
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I need the computer !!!!!! I am a poor teacher
I can undertake to pay what you ask me but after receiving the computer
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now, with certification that all Electronics LTD documents are fakes, if i pay i’d be crazy to send you more money … do you think I’m crazy?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: You can find informations about me in fabiocampagnoni.blog … I’m sincere
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: if you also received fake informations from all Electronics LTD can you help me get the computer? without paying anything else please! otherwise I will be forced to report you for fraud to the authorities
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Do you think that im not sincere and a liar? That I’m not a teacher? Please help me: I have already spent a lot more than I could afford
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: if you do not promise me to solve the problem without spending anything else I will contact the trade and police authorities to call you to your responsibilities
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Or you can refund me immediately and I suspend all my actions
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: so far I have considered you a reliable person, even if I am now certain that All Electronics LTD is an unreliable company, so I ask you if you can answer me definitively
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Can you refund me?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: ok, we will find our way to get goods back and refund you, just give us little time ok
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Ok.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Now I spent $420+$600 =
$ 1020 total
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I have to buy a computer for work with my students, so i can’t wayt more then tomorrow
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Because I emptied my wallet
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Bye
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Below is the Western Union details for payment:
Receiver First Name : FABIO
Receiver Last Name: CAMPAGNONI
Address: VIA ZOCCHI 6
City : COSTA VOLPINO (BG)
Country : ITALY
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: according to the agreements I ask to refund me $ 1040 by today using western Union. otherwise I proceed to protect my rights against you
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello Clinton, news?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello, can you refund me today? Please reply
Fabio
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: hello
please can you give us till next week ? please we are on it
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I’m very disappunted, I would like to remind you that although I had serious doubts about the documents you sent me I trusted and sent you more than 1000 $.
you have repeated several times that it was all true and I trusted it.
then the documents were all fake.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I can wait only till saturday.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Its ok?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: It’s ok? Please reply! I Need you refund my $1040!
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I have prepared documents to proceed to inform and involve all the subjects you have reported to me starting from March 29: All Electronics LTD, the companies that are based at the addresses you have indicated, the certifying authorities which are mentioned in the fake documents, the telephone/whatsapp numbers, email references, the owners of the site https://www.cartelogisticsservices.com/home/Track-Shipment, customs, Alibaba and the people who were involved in this negotiation
I will deliver copies of all documents to the Italian and international trade authorities
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: i said give us time to refund, what is your problem , do you think you can win us ?
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I will proceed if you do not pay by tomorrow
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: wait till we refund and give us 14 days
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Absolutly no.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: when I had to pay I had to do it within a few hours. I have no intention of waiting any longer. I have received dozens of counterfeit documents that make me doubt your reliability
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Tomorrow Is the last day.
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I ask that this situation be closed immediately
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I do not intend to wait beyond the deadline I have given you. then you will contact the lawyer I will appoint
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello Clinton, I remind you today’s deadline: I expect payment through western Union by today
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Need my money
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Hello today i find a lot of bad reviews about you. I am very angry
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: not me , you lying
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I just entered your phone number in a search engine
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://it.trustpilot.com/review/www.buy-all-electronics.com&ved=2ahUKEwjosKLFroXwAhUC2qQKHRcTCIYQFjAAegQIBhAC&usg=AOvVaw1HPKb9CjmFchbknNHyQb_p
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: for now the only person who lied between us is you
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: please stop saying that I lie and pay me how much you have to give me back
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Hope you will pay without problems
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I Ask you about payment because I dont intend to proceed against you if you pay today… Do you intend to refund me today?
If you dont reply I proceed tomorrow
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: Shit, reply to me!!!
18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: I seriously suspect you are a big liar and a thief
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18/04/21, 11:33 – Fabio Campagnoni: what is this ?
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